FEED presents OK RADIO

Now here is something super cool!
FEED presents the ongoing series OK RADIO!, brought to you by that ever-daring troupe Nature Theater of Oklahoma. Since the summer of 2012 – and wherever their travels take them – NTOK Artistic Directors Kelly Copper and Pavol Liska have been interviewing influential theater, multi-disciplinary artists and taste makers around the world and close to home. Over the course of the run of LIFE AND TIMES: EPISODE 1-4, FEED will post some of these wonderful, playful, spontaneous interviews on this page. These interviews feature everyone from bad boy Italian stage director Romeo Castellucci (Episode 10), the choreographer William Forsythe (Episodes 25 & 26) and ace German curator Martine Dennewald (Episode 24). Please enjoy these enlightening, illuminating, wry looks at the creative life.

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Episode 43: Bruce Gladwintumblr_mhhwm0PQ7n1rbb01so1_500

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Bruce Gladwin, director of Back to Back Theatre, based in Geelong, Australia, about ability, disability, inability, responsibility – obstacles – and audience.  (And also, while we’re at it – let’s talk about being “special” and the many pitfalls of that label.)



Episode 42: Cynthia Hopkinstumblr_mhasazbuny1rbb01so1_500

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to writer, composer and performer Cynthia Hopkins about her trip to the Arctic Circle and what she discovered there – also about meditation, crisis, climate change, the future, the primordial past, artistic genius, ecstatic experience, the unseen world, the divine, prayer – and the cosmos.  And Cynthia sings to us a few songs in the closet, too.



Episode 41: Jim Findlaytumblr_mh3eny1uwP1rbb01so1_500

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to designer, director and performer Jim Findlay about his work both within and without Collapsable Giraffe.  Join us as we delve into the deep love and attachment (and nostalgia) we feel for feral work and feral spaces, William Boroughs, Artaud, Werner Schroeter, centaurs, androids, prehistoric plant life, and the ultimate post-human future of the planet when machines take over!


Episode 40tumblr_mgvrpqpJPT1rbb01so1_500: Gavin Quinn 

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks with Gavin Quinn, director of Dublin-based Pan Pan Theatre company, about empathy and the physical presence of actors.  When you remove the actor from performance (as they do in All That Fall) — what possibilities does that lack of an obvious physical and emotional center open up for an audience?  (Plus: we experiment for the first time with podcasting in the dark!)


Episode 39: Miguel Gutierreztumblr_mgofttLson1rbb01so1_500

Nature Theater of Oklahoma meets with choreographer/dancer/performance artist Miguel Gutierrez , who braves athsma and kittens, to explore with us the nature of stunt, risk, and personal necessity in the work.  Also, honestly – how complicated is our relationship to audience? And to museums, for that matter. (Hello, MoMA!)



Episode 38John Collinstumblr_mghibbTgp21rbb01so1_500

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks with John Collins, director of Elevator Repair Service in New York, about sleepless nights, Supreme Court oral arguments, gun control, the Newtown school shootings, benevolent dictatorships, emancipation, risk, responsibility, reason, and other things that have absolutely nothing to do with theater… or do they?



Episode 37Gideon Lestertumblr_mgf7r3d7Xe1rbb01so1_500

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Gideon Lester, Director of Theater Programs and Professor of Theater at Bard College, also one of the curators of the Crossing the Line Festival in New York, about becoming brave and strategies for inscribing that bravery into our cultural institutions and universities.  How should we train and cultivate a courageous new generation of artistic leaders?  (Or: Where are all our new young failures going to come from – and why do we need them more than ever?)


Episode 36Paul Lazar

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to actor/director Paul Lazar of Big Dance Theater about navigating a tremendously diverse body of work. Paul has worked in everything from the Wooster Group’s Brace Up to Hollywood gangster flics, from Korean monster movies to modern dance (he’s currently working with Mikhail Baryshnikov on a new piece). And he now hosts his own radio show “Talk to Paulie” on BBOX Radio in New York – a show on which we are, also, simultaneously HIS guests. (A radio show within a radio show!)


Episode 35: Eric Dyer

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Eric Dyer of the Brooklyn-based performance group Radiohole about play and playfulness, artist and ensemble.  How far out, to the extreme edge of failure, are we willing to push ourselves and our work in order to try and stay “wild”?  Does our willingness to embrace failure and be more courageous hinge in part on our ability to trick ourselves into crafting a more playful relationship to the audience, curators, and funders that we hope will eventually embrace that work?


Episode 34: Young Jean Lee #2

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks again with their very first OK Radio guest, playwright/director Young Jean Lee, about American celebrity culture, our capacities for violence and repression – plus lots of dancing our way around Kant’s Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals. (And added bonus feature: Young Jean explains the workings of the economic “Pareto” principle and how to beneficially apply it to your personal life!)



Episode 33: David Harbour

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Tony-nominated actor and Hollywood regular David Harbour about the challenges and benefits of working in the world of commercial entertainment.  Is there a Berlin-style wall that divides Broadway from the experimental theater? And, if so, can we, as another famous actor, Ronald Regan, once commanded: “tear down that wall”? (Plus special guest appearance by actress Ari Graynor!)



Episode 32: Karinne Keithley Syers

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Bessie Award-winning choreographer, playwright, instigator – and new parent, Karinne Keithley Syers, about crossing disciplines, changing names, and genuinely embracing experiment as a part of living and making work.


Episode 31: Vallejo Gantner

Released Dec 17, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Vallejo Gantner, artistic director of PS122 and curator of the COIL Festival in New York City about the obvious drawbacks and also surprising benefits and pleasures of working in the performing arts in America.  (Plus even more exciting conversation about sharks, snakes, spiders, dingos and native marsupials of the Australian outback!)



Episode 30:Caden Manson

Released Dec 13, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Caden Manson, director of Big Art Group about watching and reading – the work, the audience, and (maybe) even American football.  Plus additional deep reflections on time, progress and The Future.




Episode 29: Kate Valk

Released Dec 05, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to performer Kate Valk, one of the founding members of the Wooster Group, about her sustained commitment to the company and her evolution and transformation as an artist within it.



Episode 28: Anne Bogart

Released Dec 02, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to American director and writer Anne Bogart, about change, control and community.




Episode 27: Nikolaus Müller-Schöll

Released Nov 26, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks with Nikolaus Müller-Schöll, author, professor, and theater scientist at Goethe-Universität in Frankfurt about the role of discourse and critical thinking and theory in the performing arts.  What is the role of the artist in this discourse?  Can we offer any insight into our work?  And, conversely, do those who write about theater (even 18th century theater) also need to sit in the audience or be engaged somehow in current practice?


Episode 26: William Forsythe Pt.2

Released Nov 20, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma continues their talk with William Forsythe, this time delving more deeply into the improbable intersections of radio and dance, and the even more bizarre correlations between directing, choreography and plumbing.



Episode 25: William Forsythe Pt.1

Released Nov 16, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to American choreographer and world-famous Frankfurt-er, William Forsythe, about diet and exercise – both physical and mental. (We enjoyed this conversation so much that we took a coffee break and came back for more. Be sure to join us next time for Pt. 2!)



Episode 24: Martine Dennewald

Released Nov 11, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Martine Dennewald, former curator of the Salzburg Festival’s Young Directors Project, now programmer and interim co-Artistic Director of the Künstlerhaus Mousonturm in Frankfurt, about navigating the different contexts and constituencies in which art is presented and represented.  We also try to talk about the work of our mutual friend, Niels Ewerbeck (Director of Mousonturm), who tragically died just a few weeks ago.


Episode 23: Kassys

Released Nov 07, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to performance and video artists Mette van der Sijs and Liesbeth Gritter (who together make up the Dutch company Kassys) about unbalancing acts and comfort zones.  What does Kassys hope to learn by taking a one year sabbatical from theater where they make no work, but instead develop new and different talents, such as farming olives in Portugal (Liesbeth) and undertaking in Holland (Mette)?


Episode 22: Faustin Linyekula

Released Nov 02, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to internationally respected choreographer, dancer and theater-maker Faustin Linyekula, from the Democratic Republic of Congo, about local and global, national and international.  When we travel, how much of our local context and content do we inadvertently carry along with us?  Can we ever really check all our baggage at the airport?


Episode 21: Jérôme Bel

Released Oct 29, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to French choreographer and conceptual artist Jérôme Bel about virtuosity, disability, pleasure, and permission.




Episode 20:Richard Foreman

Released Oct 25, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to New York avant-garde writer and director Richard Foreman about film, television, theater, radio and – above all – resistance.



Episode 19:Pascal Rambert

Released Oct 21, 2012      

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to French director/playwright Pascal Rambert (also artistic director of Théâtre de Gennevilliers in Paris) about the aversion most theater people have to talk after a show.  Why are we so averse to the social situation we have created with our performances?  Do we cheat ourselves of an actual exchange of ideas?  Or does the society we live in today so completely surround us with commentary (facebook, twitter, et. al.) that we retreat instinctually in search of the increasingly rare space for contemplation?


Episode 18: Michael Laub

Released Oct 17, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to artist/director Michael Laub about his ongoing work on the Portrait Series, a project which has taken him from the Vienna Burgtheater to Istanbul, and most recently landed him in Cambodia.  We discuss the intersections of performance and person – exhibitionism and narcissism, vulnerability and testimony.  What are the motivations of “real” people (and even actors) to take the stage?


Episode 17:Matthieu Goeury

Released Oct 14, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to performing arts curator Matthieu Goeury from Vooruit (Ghent) about hugging, participation, social practice, and idealism.  Once you identify idealism as an artistic and humanitarian goal, how do you feed it – in the face of failure, inertia, real financial limtiation, etc.?  We talk in particular about the current centennial re-imagining of the art center Vooruit, which was created 100 years ago by the Socialist party, and was devoted to the betterment and education of workers and their families.  What kind of possible future do we imagine for this space today, and can we reconnect in any way with the original ambition and idealism of its mission?


Episode 16: Eleanor Bauer

Released Oct 10, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to American dancer/choreographer Eleanor Bauer about dance, theater, tanztheater, performance art, Broadway show and all the many contexts and categories in between – up to and including her recent nomination for a Bessie award in the complicated and controversial category of “Outstanding Production of a work not technically considered dance but happening in and influencing dance in New York”


Episode 15: Frank Vercruyssen

Released Oct 03, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to actor Frank Vercruyssen, member of the Belgian performance group STAN, about actors, directors, and groups working (collaboratively or not) in the theater.  Who originates?  Who is in charge?  And how is the work that’s made the result of the personal attributes (and defects) of the people who make it?


Episode 14: Marleen Scholten

Released Oct 01, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to actress Marleen Scholten, a member of the Dutch performance group Wunderbaum, about character, story, transformation, and play.  We also discuss the recent cuts in arts funding in The Netherlands, and come up with a few modest American proposals to help raise some extra cash.


Episode 13: Meg Stuart

Released Sep 27, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to internationally respected artist/choreographer Meg Stuart about improvisation, inspiration, structure, abstraction and strategies for working.  If we were to go off in the woods on a vision quest somewhere and learn something from each other – what would that look like?  (And when will we find the time to do it?)


Episode 12: Masha Dakic

Released Sep 23, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Serbian actress Masha Dakic about acting, isolation, irrelevance, and audiences – both local and global. As an actor, can you make work that has an immediacy and relevance that can compete with the immediacy of real circumstances people struggle with in their daily lives at this moment?  And what does Meryl Streep have to do with it?


Episode 11: Anja Suša

Released Sep 19, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Anja Suša, co-curator (with founder Jovan Ćirilov) of the BITEF Festival in Belgrade, about striking a balance in the ever-changing social, political and cultural environment of southeastern Europe.  What strategies has she employed as a curator to keep this historically forward and avant-garde festival going inside a country where the reigning minister of culture Bratislav Petković, recently announced that “art has to be patriotic” and that Serbia must “insist on the traditional values of our nation”?


Episode 10: Romeo Castellucci

Released Sep 16, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to world-renowned Italian (and American! – from Kansas!) theater artist Romeo Castellucci about religion, moral imperative, spectatorship, time, and play.  A show in which we dare to ask the question “Romeo Castellucci, if you got fired from theater, what would you do with your life?”


Episode 9: Heiner Goebbels

Released Sep 13, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to composer and director Heiner Goebbels, currently curator of the music and arts festival Ruhrtriennale, about their mutual interest in recorded audio — plus extreme experimental art strategies such as being lazy, watching bad television, and leaving the room in order to stay as open as possible to unexpected chance opportunities.


Episode 8: Matthias von Hartz

Released Sep 10, 2012

In their first OK Radio podcast after Pavol’s sudden hospitalization in Hamburg, Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to director and curator Matthias von Hartz, (outgoing director of the Internationale Sommerfestival Kampnagel in Hamburg, and new director of Foreign Affairs Festival in Berlin) about strategies for how to keep going and keep working in the wake of personal crisis.  Can and should we create a space in our life for something other than our work to take precedence?


Episode 7: Davis Freeman

Released Sep 01, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to artist/performer/entertainer? and fellow American abroad, Davis Freeman, director of Random Scream, about his life and work in Brussels, Belgium.  How did he get there and why does he stay?  And what impact has his relocation to Europe had on his artistic practice?  (Among other things…)


Episode 6: Florian Malzacher

Released Aug 30, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to Florian Malzacher, dramaturg, former critic, and current curator of Steirischer Herbst Festival in Graz, Austria about his interest in art and political practice, particularly in the context of recent demonstrations and reactions to social crisis of artists in New York, Egypt, Tunisia, Japan, and Moscow. (Also other diverse topics such as: what constitutes an engaged artistic and curatorial practice?  How do we reconcile the material and immaterial –the ephemeral and non-commercial aspect of performance with the money it costs to produce it?  What is the impact of global audience and travel on the work?, etc. etc…)


Episode 5: Anne Teresa deKeersmaeker

Released Aug 26, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to world-renowned choreographer Anne Teresa de Keersmaeker about dance, language, thought, intuition, irresponsible ambition, and living life with the possibility of losing everything (with also some side discussions about whole grains and mayonnaise…)

Sadly, there was no photo of this recording. Enjoy this video of her choreography compared to Beyonce’s instead! 


Episode 4: Jim Fletcher

Released Aug 16, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to actor Jim Fletcher (of New York City Players, ERS. and the Wooster Group) about mistaken identities, the great North Dakota oil rush, the magic of Northern Michigan, making hay, “junk” DNA, and how honest hard work makes the American actor.


Episode 3: Tony Torn

Released Aug 11, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to actor Tony Torn about his work with some of the world’s all-time great theater artists (both Reza Abdoh and Richard Foreman) – plus thoughts on company, family, future, and the possibility of living a life with “no egrets”.



Episode 2: Annie Dorsen

Released Aug 04, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to director Annie Dorsen about social anxiety, self-consciousness, relevance, audience, growth, participation, revolution, Occupy Wall Street, and the global perils of Facebook.



Episode 1: Young Jean Lee

Released Jul 28, 2012

Nature Theater of Oklahoma talks to writer/director Young Jean Lee about longevity, mortality, ambition, endurance, and resilience.



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